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Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #18, Dionyza by supplement

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Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #6, Angelo by wordwizardw

wordwizardw — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:41:11 +0000

I won’t quarrel with it–yet I still think gouging out eyes ON STAGE rates higher. After all, when you’re dead, you’re dead (and in God’s hands, in Elizabethan eyes), but when you’re still alive, you need your eyesight.
How do you know that PRENZIE means PROPER, and not PRECISE, or PRINCELY, or WELL-THOUGHT-OF, or DISHONEST?

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #6, Angelo by theshakespeareminute

theshakespeareminute — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:34:56 +0000

Prenzie just means “proper”, basically. And even if you give Angelo a pass on the death sentence, a sentence which probably wasn’t Vincentio’s goal in handing over the keys (he just wants slightly more enforcement than he had developed over the years), the big-time villain moment is his hypocrisy and lies – when he commands Claudio to be killed *anyway* it’s just a breathtakingly evil moment. Do you agree with his placement this high on the list?

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #6, Angelo by wordwizardw

wordwizardw — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:24:25 +0000

Although Angelo definitely is villainous, he WAS specifically charged with enforcing the no-sex-outside-marriage-or-you-die in the Duke’s absence, since the Duke doesn’t want to sully HIS reputation. This is the DUKE’S villainy, rather than Angelo’s. He also tries to coerce an ALMOST-novitiate-nun into agreeing to have sex–It’s a narrow line, but not actually rape. He does indeed lose his mind over “first love/lust”, but who doesn’t? His hypocrisy IS big-time villainy, no question. Any guesses as to what “prenzie” means, exactly?

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #8-#7, The Macbeths by theshakespeareminute

theshakespeareminute — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:39:35 +0000

Hahahahah love it! Well, I think that together you make a good villain!

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #8-#7, The Macbeths by wordwizardw

wordwizardw — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:55:24 +0000

I played Lady Macbeth yesterday, and speaking for her, I don’t think I was such a great villain. I only urged my husband to make so something that was already fated, that HE wanted. I couldn’t even bring myself to actually kill the king myself, and I couldn’t live with what we had done, afterwards.

My husband was not such a great villain, either. Yes, he got the kingship by unfair means, but after that, he was only trying to maintain his kingship after he had been anointed as a king, and was thus chosen by God for the sacred task. If you think it is easy holding things together under attack by one’s own citizens, YOU try it.

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #9, Claudius by wordwizardw

wordwizardw — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:46:20 +0000

I just think Claudius realizes that he hasn’t got it in him to truly repent. He still WANTS Gertrude and the crown (+he is doing a competent job at it–who knows whether someone else would be as good at it–he may rationalize that it’s in the people’s interest). He CAN’T face the music in an intense way. How many people COULD give up a wife (whom he may love) and a crown (when they’re good at ruling) and not care what others might think of them, +join a monastery BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN IMPOSED ON THEM–not because they feel called to it?

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #9, Claudius by theshakespeareminute

theshakespeareminute — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:35:46 +0000

Duke Frederick manages to go live in a hermitage. Claudius would never do this, but he has to face down the possibility of true repentance and say, you know what, I’m not willing to do it. He would have to face the music in some intense way, and he simply won’t. Showing us the “penance” scene is the way Shakespeare explains that Claudius looks his evil in the face and truly accepts it beyond a kneejerk thing.

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #9, Claudius by wordwizardw

wordwizardw — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:13:56 +0000

How could Claudius just give up the crown AND HIS WIFE in a time of no divorce, with no explanation to the nation? Do you think no one would notice, or draw conclusions? Just think what a fuss was made when Whats-his-name gave up the English crown in order to marry a divorced woman? Practically in the present-day, too, when the crown means nothing, power-wise. I don’t know what kind of penance would be placed on a fratricide and king-killer, (Go live in a monastery? Become a beggar?) but it would probably be something hard for others to ignore. It would probably be as good as a public admission of guilt. Is there a Catholic priest who could weigh in on this?

Comment on 31 Days, 31 Villains: #9, Claudius by theshakespeareminute

theshakespeareminute — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:40:19 +0000

This is a good point – Claudius, however, does have the option of giving up those things he got, even if he couldn’t publicly admit his guilt to the nation, and possibly still be absolved. He has to look his “offense” in the face and *say* that he has chosen to live with the ill-gotten gains and the guilty conscience rather than give them up and have a clear conscience. That’s how I see it. He does, of course, want to be absolved, absolutely! And Hamlet… I’ll discuss that after the list is up, you’ll have to watch the rest of the top ten to see if I include him or not!